Originally Posted by
merziac
It will get worn under plaid flannel shirts and safety orange rain jacket. With 2-3 headlights and 3-4 tailights, visibility is never a problem.
I don't use any pockets for much, I think these sideload will be easier to get to and will work out just fine one way or another.

in SoCal, we never admit to cold and rain, even after a wet El Niņo winter. The legacy now is slope surfing houses and mega brush growth.