Originally Posted by
Fredo76
Has everybody forgotten about pulling up on the pedals? It keeps you on your seat quite well! Making your force proportional to quad strength + hamstring strength (in layman's terms

), and has little to do with body weight, which only enters the equation when off the saddle. When standing, hamstring strength is greatly increased, which is one reason why racers often stand when attacking.
I pull up seated quite often (though I come here and find that is all in my head and that my cleats don't actually pull off the pedals if I forget to tighten the toestraps) and sometimes
hard! out of the saddle. (I've bruised/injured the bone of my foot top on my shoe straps riding the fix gear. Once rode up a moderate, maybe 200' climb on a 42-12 that was fun for the downhills on both sides doing a massive push-pull like an extended weight room set. (By that time, I'd replaced the straps with laces. Would have sent me to the doctor before. Now it was just good fun.)