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Originally Posted by
Duragrouch
I pretty much gave up on the rack that came with my Zizzo. I may put it back, but I think using for panniers would be nearly useless, as it's too low and too forward. I could use it for a top of the rack bag. I mainly use Brompton blocks. I made a clip on beam rack that I sometimes use to supplement the front block. Because the beam is short, 3 or 4 inches, the cantilever effect is not noticeable.
Yes, the rear rack that came with my Dahon was the same way, strong enough, but too low and far forward to be able to hang any panniers. Even full-size racks, while tall enough, most are too forward for our folders. That Blackburn one worked perfect, but no longer made. But Axiom makes one that puts the panniers behind the axle (like mine), and, has a lower tier for the panniers (like mine) so easier to put a trunk bag on and off, or have a flat bag on top of both panniers. The super XL length stays are from Jandd, or I think Topeak too. The structural clamps are rubber covered stainless steel P-clamps, found at marine supply store, correct size for where you want to attach on the rack. I chose the fatter rod.