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Old 03-12-24 | 04:37 AM
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Originally Posted by john m flores
Interesting down "tube". There was a manufacturer in the late 80s/early 90s that used cables for the downtube as well based on the idea that a typical downtube operates primarily in tension.
Yes, someone posted a pic of that above, a poor design. The cable on that one was spring-loaded to provide suspension, which means a pivot point just in front of the seat on the top tube. Based on the diameter of the top tube, that bike will be a wet noodle in torsion while pedaling. The downtube takes a lot of torsion loads when hammering on the pedals.

The Deltec cable on the Dahon is more feasible, because the monobeam frame is much larger in closed section size, so has a bunch of torsional stiffness. The Deltec only reduces the bending moment on everything on the monobeam, including the beam, welds, but most importantly, the hinge. Which is why I improvised a deltech for my Speed from kevlar line, and it really tightened up the hinge, haven't had to adjust the hinge since.

The new Launch also looks like it has a hollowtech II style 2X crank, just like I retrofit to my Speed. These guys can't stop imitating me. EDIT: OH!!!! That's right, the past Launch is just 1X! They really did imitate me. Although I would have used 110 BCD 50/34, looks like that is 130 BCD 52/42.

I'm still figuring out the Launch hinge 2.0, I need to see better views of it open. The previous Launch hinge just tightened vertically. I don't know if this newer one is different in concept.

EDIT: The welds around the hinge are dressed, smoothed out like my vintage Cannondale, vast improvement in aesthetics there. Looks like all other welds as well, that's a big deal, not just looks, it also reduces the stress concentration at the boundaries of welds. OK, looks like Dahon is trying harder.

Only downside I am seeing is still no thru-axle, especially in front, to keep wheel from popping out of dropouts under hard disc braking. They also could have instead, mounted the front caliper on the front of the right fork blade, like on the new Curl.

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