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Old 03-26-24, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by DaveSSS
It's sad when the CPA president makes such ignorant remarks. Disc brakes should be better when extreme braking is required. The increase in bike weight is meaningless when all riders use them. There's absolutely no significant weight difference between hooked and hookless rims. Either rim could be built to be dangerously weak to save weight.


​​​​​​Hookless rims have been successfully tested at up to 150% of the suggested maximum. The tire won't blow off at a few psi over 73, it's built right.


It's been determined that Degent's wheel hit something severely enough to break it, causing the tire to come off.


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So we're saying that the CPA president makes statements that impedes the ability of the industry to sell the latest and greatest shwag to gold-card weekend warriors? The entire thrust of the industry is to churn customer inventory and promote the latest and greatest bike shwag. Cardinal rule: do not go against this dominant narrative.


Disc brakes in the pro peloton? The pros actually preferred rim brakes despite regularly being faced with steep 10 mile descents in the rain at 40+mph. They knew how to brake, and didn't have to worry about some newbie overcooking a corner and losing tire adhesion, or someone panicking in the pack, slamming on their super duper disc brakes and taking out 50 riders.


Hookless is an absurd attempt to recover some of the ground lost when tubulars would not sell. Due to the inherent limitations of this tech, or any clincher rim technology, it will never be as good as tubular rim/tires. ONCE AGAIN, THE INHERENT ADVANTAGE OF TUBULARS ARE THE RIMS. Lighter, stronger and safer.


73psi? Way too low pressure for efficiency on decent pavement.


Degent hit something? Yep, we all believe that. Degent broke the code: whenever a pro rider has a mechanical problem (even if its totally the fault of hookless rim tech), he's supposed to accept all blame for the issue, and praise his bike, his gear and his team. Yep, some phantom rock came out of nowhere, and he just felt compelled to hit it. Maybe he aimed for the rock after his tire blew off.
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