Originally Posted by
msu2001la
New SRAM Red = $4200 (with power meter)
It's cool and light and I'm sure amazing, and also pretty safe to assume I'd never spend that much on a groupset.
I mean I agree but Dura Ace is $4350 MSRP. Not that I think either one is worth $4K but Red AXS E1 is slightly cheaper and technically the lightest electronic groupset now. The only downsides still remain are DOT fluid, probably semi poor front shifting, and possibly marginally slower rear shifting. However if Shimano was a 9/10 shift speed wise SRAM was always a 8.8/10.
IMO if you are a SRAM AXS owner especially a SRAM Force D2 owner, IMO this is where mixing and matching is very beneficial. For me the shifters, chain, and maybe rear derailleur are the only things I would buy from Red E1 while the rest would be Force D2 or the old Red D1. The new rotors are only 8g lighter which puts them at 108g but frankly Galfer Wave CL Rotors 160mm are 98g and are cheaper at $70. I frankly think the new front derailleur will be exactly the same performance wise as the Force D2, so IMO why pay $450 when you can buy the Force for $243 or cheaper with sales? Unless you need the 10-36 in Red, just getting a Red D1 cassette on sale now is such a better deal. The crankset is only 29g lighter yet you can find Force D2 and even Red D1 cranks for under $400 now