Old 05-16-24 | 12:20 PM
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Jrasero
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Bikes: Cannondale SuperSix EVO Hi-Mod 2, Specialized Tarmac SL8 Fact 10r, XDS RS5

Originally Posted by Caliwild
Yeah, I have a bike where I swapped out the Force D1 derailleurs and crankset for the D2. But I never updated the shifters. Maybe these new Red ones would be nice. But, wow, they're pricey....
So misspoke the set isn't $1500 ($750 each) but $1350 ($675 each) however Force D2 shifters are $350 each but I have seen sales on them for 20% off thus $280 or $560 per pair, thus a pair of Force D2 is less than one Red AXS E1 Shifter, granted the new Red E1 shifter seems to be the biggest game changer of the new groupset is that it has small hoods, longer reach, new aesthetics, one finger pulls, larger rotor clearance, and 80g lighter than the old Red, but damn $1300 before tax and before install...

For me I will stick with the Force D2 rear derailleur and just install ceramic oversized pulley wheels to basically get the same thing. You can find older Red AXS D1 cranks for sub $400 new now, so what does 80g mean and even Force D2 is so close. The front derailleur might be a game changer but $450 vs Force D2 $243 with common sales is a hard sell. For me the 10-36T Red cassette if you do 1X or want it on a climbing bike is a great option but the $100 premium to go Rainbow is insane. The 160mm cranks are well welcomed. The chain looks super cool and for me that's a must buy.
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