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Old 05-30-24 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by scared_cyclist
E-(insert your vehicle of choice) do not attract an accurate sample size of society.

They attract punks. You will clearly see that their most popular user base are young males. These young males are not your typical Rhodes scholars either.

Punks do stupid things.

Paris already banned e-scooters because of their issue with punks. Many cities will follow.
As someone who has listened to punk music for a large portion of their life please refrain from your inaccurate baseless claims! Punks don't do stupid things people who don't use their brains do stupid things and try to claim riding a bicycle is unsafe on a bicycle forum. Punks span a lot of different sections of society. For instance Milo Aukerman of the band The Descendents, Greg Graffin of Bad Religion and Epitaph Records, Dexter Holland of The Offspring, Greg Turner of the Angry Samoans all have PhDs (in different fields) and Milo worked as a biochemist and I think Greg was/is a professor and I am sure there are others I cannot think of off the top of my head. Look at Ian MacKaye of a whole bunch of DC punk bands and of the label Dischord, he is extremely well spoken, well read and very conscious both in a social and political context. If you went to a Fugazi show and started getting violent you would be politely asked to stop and then removed from the show and given your money back. Not something your false idea of a "punk" would do. John Josephs of the hardcore band The Cro-Mags is an IronMan Triathlete, a Hare Krishna and vegan.

Those who use e-vehicles are a pretty wide diverse section of population and like any section of population you will generally have some small part of that be people who may not always do the right thing but that is a small section of population. Most people are generally good because if not we would all be killing each other and it would be more of a post-apocalyptic scenario. There is a lot of bad in the world but most of comes from a tiny bubble in the population sadly not a mass of people. Jay Leno drives several e-vehicles and owns a few himself and I don't think you would call him a "punk"

I do ride e-bikes and listen to punk music but those are two mutually exclusive things though yes technically I will sometimes listen to punk will riding but I am not causing the issues you think exist en masse that don't. Most of the people in the punk community have been some of the nicest most caring people out there, despite the music we listen to.
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