LOL....

BTW baxtefer is right... why people still getting bikes thinking in the stand over? One of this days some company will came up with a top tube like a U backwards and how the curve will be super high everybody will get super small frames because the stand over will be over the average...

wonder what could happend if the tt is just the opposite, like a real U, then the stand over will be super low, then even midgets will get a frame size 60 because the stand over is the right one...