Originally Posted by
john m flores
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I also have a Zizzo Liberte bifold. It's a fine bike for around town. I've even taken it on longer rider, about ~27 around the perimeter of Washington DC. As much as I like it, it doesn't have the same ride quality as a Bike Friday. ...
You've said this several times here, but you've never said why or how the ride quality is different or worse. In one puzzling instance, you said its ride was "agrarian". What? 🤔
The other part of this is that you haven't said how and whether you've attempted to improve its ride quality. Nowadays in 2025 there's a myriad ways of improving fitment, performance and ride quality on a folding bike. It's as if you've given in to this fatalist determination.
Finally, the other potential issue is psychological. I am talking about a cognitive bias, about expectation bias. You've been bombarded with the hype about BF and its unrivalled "ride quality" and you even bought one at $2,700. You are now invested, financially and figuratively, in this belief. It would be quite the cognitive dissonance if the cheap Chinese, mass produced bike rides comparably well so you scupper the thought outright. You are invested, after all.
Look, I've ridden smaller, inexpensive 16" folders that have been characterized here by your channel peers as
cheap Asiatic trash over 100km (65 miles) several times, loaded while on tour. It's not a big deal.. There is no reason why you shouldn't be able to do likewise comfortably and competently on the likes of a Zizzo or why you need a BF (or Brompton or Birdy) for a bike that rides well. I have shown amply and repeatedly that an inexpensive bi-fold will do.
Unless, of course, the fundamental problem not is the bikes, but rather the common element to both your BF and the Zizzo: you, the jockey. 😉 If you are unable or unwilling to ride the likes of a Zizzo more than 25 miles and require a custom boutique job costing upwards of $2,000, the problem, the impediment is not the the bike. The problem, the impediment is you, and if so, frankly you ain't in a position to be dispensing any sort of sensible advice. That goes for your other channel peers too.