Originally Posted by
rsbob
Why reinvent the wheel, so to speak? Why not just buy a conventional, bolt on kickstand, which attached to chain stay/s, like we had as kids?
Very bad idea for aluminum frames, which the OP says he rides (per the opening post).
Also a bad idea for carbon, which is probably obvious to all. And even for chro-mo steel chainstays, as someone at Surly explains very entertainingly on the company's website.