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Old 05-01-25 | 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by KerryIrons
Cheap steel frames do have a separate hanger, which is typically attached in the dropout slot with a nut/bolt.
I wonder why that doesn't seem to count, I guess it's because to me the "claw" is part of the derailleur rather than part of the frame - many bikes that use them have cheap derailleurs that have an integral hanger. But I have an old steel frame for which I had to buy a claw when I built it up. Strange.
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