- i got a notice that until i have 10 posts i can't include a url - but we know which link you sent me!

thank you for the link And lengthy explanation.

i'm embarrassed to tell what Steve at Modern Bike went through convincing me i had a 1" quill stem and need a shim etcetera etcetera but in the end i got my bars mounted and he made a customer.

the problem i get into with Sheldon Brown is the never ending spiral of more information. but i will attempt o ask less annoying questions as time marches on.

thx again

sid