Originally Posted by
maddog34
i think you need to measure and count your balls, john.

Got any part numbers for those caged ball assemblies you mention?
actual dimensions of the cage assemblies, or the specific applications they're made for?
pics?
Since you ask, here's a Campagnolo Record headset, with the full-complement 20-ball retainers, part #2101 as supplied by Campagnolo:

Here is a Campagnolo Nuovo Record bottom bracket, with the full 11-ball retainers, part #2100 as supplied by Campagnolo:

Now, can you show me a Record headset with 21 or more 3/16" loose balls installed, and a Record or Nuovo Record bottom bracket with 12 or more 1/4" balls installed?