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Old 02-10-26 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by RChung
Looks to me like most of that 4th quarter change in watts/HR was at the low end, but with a cross-over at higher power.

Nonetheless, it does look like something changed. Have you made any other changes since Thanksgiving?
The only other change since Thanksgiving was adding in more strength workouts, specifically squats and lunges. I was inspired to increase my strength workouts from this paper: Louis et al, Strength training improves cycling efficiency in master endurance athletes, Eur J Appl Physiol (2012). Not a huge group size, but the results were remarkable.

Originally Posted by RChung
That's interesting. I don't pay much attention to HR measures so I didn't know that EF was NP/HR. However, Terry's charts were either HR vs. power (so I presumed avg HR vs. avg power) or % threshold HR vs. (avg?) power.

Since EF uses NP in the numerator, shouldn't it use something like TRIMP in the denominator?
Those power:HR graphs are from intervals.icu. It looks like it's using average power, but I'm not sure.

Originally Posted by Carbonfiberboy
Those indoor long climbs - how long?
~3600 feet to 6500+ feet. Total time about 1:15 to 3:00. The 3-hour sessions make my sit bones hurt, so I tend to avoid them.

One other item I've noticed -- virtually zero cardiac drift on these long climbs. That's new.

Originally Posted by TerrenceM
Could the difference just be down to less residual, chronic fatigue because you've eliminated the interspersed higher intensity rides? Moderate exercise in hot conditions also increases stroke volume.. not sure if that could be a possible reason not sure of your training conditions..?
I don't know. I still have days where I feel like I need a rest, so these workouts aren't fatigue-free. I'm riding in a cool room (mid-60s F) with a good fan, so no real heat training.
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