Hey, this is the Aussie thread! We can talk about whatever we want.

Anyway, you bastids are making me miss Survivor!!

Matagi, you've obviously thought about this a lot. Have you progressed past the practical machinations of eating less meat and seen the global ramifications of the Western meat based diet? That's the core of the issue, or should be for most vegos or wouldbe vegos. The B12 and Protenin Myths are just that - myths. The core issues involve what a meat based diet is not only doing to our lifestyles, but also how that globally is effecting the rest of the world.

Plus, I kinda think sheep and cows are cute

OT - I got asked to design a cow motif bike once. Only just occurred to me that the customer (a hobby farmer) might actually eat them. Yeah, turn something into an icon, then eat it! "I love my cows so much, I desgned my bike after them! Then I rode that bike out into the paddock and shot one in the head! Then I skinned it and ate it! Boy, my bike is COOL!"

See, ya live and learn