The best part about this line of discussion is that it gives me a fairly good indication of who voted Howard.

Nev, I think you're confusing Vegan and Vegetarian. There's plenty of B12 in Vegemite, Eggs, Cheese, Yoghurt - all dairy products. There's also unreliable traces in things such as seaweed (nori), Spirulina and Barley. In the protein front, no problems there either - plenty in grains, seeds, nuts, legumes and dairy. The mouthful of mud I get from mountainbiking and the insects between the teeth probably help too.

Nobody is saying you can just take meat out of your diet and be fine, but really, it's not that difficult. Sure, some idiots go on extreme weird diets and find themselves in trouble, but they're just that. Idiots. There's also plenty of idiots on the other side of the fence slowly killing themselves and their colons with a diet that consists mostly of saturated fats and processed foods, too.

I've never been an extremist and I always advocate moderation. I don't have any problem with people eating meat, but I'm not prepared to kill amimals myself, and I'm fully aware of the impact the Western Diet is having on the rest of the world, it's peoples and the ecology. That's where my decision-making comes from.

Matagi, I think you're hilarous. Improve biodiversity by eating them! Brilliant! Maybe we should petition the government about the Eastern Quoll or Orange-Bellied Parrot?