went to nyc velo today and they had 2 pairs of x-large and one pair of large on display which i bought. I would have liked to try on a medium but i think the large is fine. I thought that the leg openings would be smaller but overall they are super comfy. Nothing like dickies or jeans. I will have to take them out for long ride to really test them. Didnt feel like riding in the rain and had to watch Lost.