And on the frame debate, I agree with 531, it's not the bike that makes the rider...
I like seeing guys at our club win races on old steel bikes with good wheels.

fwiw, i'd still love that custom Ti with carbon record.
Or even a carbon team bling machine (VXRS etc) but be prepared to throw them away if you ride them hard and have a stack.

Jings there's been a lot of common sense thrown around here in the last 12 hours, must be the infiltration of the newbs . I'm off for a Hoegaarden!
*starts TA'Beer'T again....