Originally Posted by pshaw
I did a race simulation on my own last year and had avg HR ~165, raced that weekend and avg HR was 175.!
There you go! I reckon none of us can push ourselves close enough to max on our own. A few weeks ago on one of our 'fastish' group rides, I was chasing a guy who shot off the front of the bunch, and my HR was 193/194/195 for nearly 10 minutes!! I could not do that on my own in a million years!!