Oh, don't get me wrong, I have no loss of love for Tony/IRO, and I really didn't expect this to turn in to an IRO vs. NYCBikes thread. I just ordered (and installed) a set of hubs, a cog, and a lockring from Tony, and the experience was stellar.

From the sounds of it, though, the only way I'd (now) consider an NYCBikes frame is if I went to their store in NYC and could check it out before purchase. I would have had no problem getting one over the 'net before this thread, so thanks to you all.

Since my chances of getting to NYC are just about nil, it looks like an NYCBikes frame is right out for me. When I seriously start looking at new frames, that is.

Thanks again.