Originally Posted by dutret
Indeed, other people tear up the trails too but that doesn't mean you should. Beginners will always do so and its unfortunate but everyone has to learn good bike control somehow. Weekend warriors and fg riders being skidiots are both equally reprehensible. I don't cut them any more slack this is just an thread about fg riders.
See there you go again assuming that I and any other fixed mtn biker are new and/or skidding up the trails. Yes this is a thread about FG riders; I was merely making a comparison that a new dirt rider, regardless of bike, will most likely make more trail damage then an experience FG mtn bike rider. For that my comparison is valid and noteworthy. I have not had any experience with these "skidiots" that you speak of.
Unfortunately I have heard of this happening and there is no excuse for it. Yes noobs will always tear up trails but even they have a responsibility to keep it to a minimum. I think it will become more and more common as the group of people who have little to no biking experience outside of fixed gears has grown so large. There is a reasonable portion of this board for instance that got into cycling in thier late teens or twenties on fixed gear bikes. When people like this decide they want to try their hand on the trails a fair number of them may be tempted to do so on a fg which is not a good choice for them or the trails.
There you go assuming again. Why not set the example and instead of assuming, calling names, and making threats. Take the bigger role and lead and or suggest proper trail etiquette. Even the noobs don't know any better until we talk to them and also invite them out to help us work on the trails together.
I didn;t mean that riding the trails since thier inception was a prerequisite but rather that you should at least figure out whats around every corner before you ride a new trail fixed.
Like I said before any experienced rider no matter what bike they are riding (fixed or a coaster) should have the proper skills to adapt to any trail they ride. I know in many of the races I've done pre-riding the course is not always possible especially when you do races that are long/er, like 40, 50 or 100+ miles. And some courses you are not allowed to pre-ride like at the SSWC.
I did no such thing. I don't even know if he plans to ride it off road period. My original post merely states that he needs to keep the brakes on it and if he is not already an accomplished rider he should stick to ss until he is.
You can not deny that you didn't call someone names and make threats..... ...and to be honest that's what really made me reply and dissect your post. Show some respect get some respect.
Not being able to lock up my wheel and throw my bike around on super tight switchbacks throws off my mojo on fast descents. I still don't do it(except on private trails on private land) though becuase I'm not a jackass. I don't care how much more pleasant it is to ride without a back brake unless you can apply smooth enough pressure so that you skid no more then you would with a brake you are a peice of **** for putting your own enjoyment over the trails health.
I think you misunderstood me a bit. Think of it more as trying to climb on a FS bike without being able to lock out the squish....mojo. Also you go assuming again that just because you don't have rear brake that you're skidding on the trails. You just don't get it. Riding fixed whether on the street, track, or in the dirt (yes I do all of them) is moreso about about a controled spin. Skidding does not improve one's braking ability; controlled spinning does. Train your legs my friend and learn to be one with your legs and wheels. Oh and please keep your astrict name calling to yourself. It really is unnecessary.