True, true. And Tange made much more than just tubing, they made major bank as a supplier of robot-brazed forks to SCORES of bike companies, some of whom used that fact as a marketing "plus" while others hid the fact. They also made some very high quality headsets, bottom brackets and frame fittings...I don't even know what else. Personally, I think Ishiwata offered a GREAT tubing (I have a similar "elephant" decal on my 3Rensho, but not that crazy paint job) and I'm sorry they couldn't stay viably in business. But Tange seems to be barely holding on, too.