I've been riding the Avatar and Alais for over a year now, and they're My Saddle. Just picked up a Toupe, and its inaugural ride was a 65mi sufferfest in Moab. It was comfy and firm; My arse was a little sore near the end of the ride, but that's easily attributable to the almost month off prior to the ride than the saddle. One thing I did notce is the nose is a touch longer than the Avatar --for part of the ride the saddle wasn't completely in-line and the nose rubbed on my right thigh. So make sure it's straight