Originally Posted by chzman

ok. huh?

all i was saying is a builder can raise his price on carbon stay equipped frames because of the ''perceived'' performance increase, and the consumer will bite and pay more. when in reality there is, at most, minimal benefit to the rider. for example, mike desalvo builds some great frames, but does it really cost $550 extra in material and labor to put on carbon stays? http://www.desalvocycles.com/?p=steel_road