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Old 10-16-06, 02:06 PM
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BikeWise1
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Originally Posted by R-Wells
Can you give us the names of these failing Businesses?

I really struggle whith the ideal of a Successful business owner that doesnt have a Successful profit margin.
Who they were failing? Making enough to pay the bills, but not enough to be "making money" are two different things. My GM is 4%. I'm not "failing"-the bills get paid, but I'm not "making money" either.
Defining success as strictly monetary is shallow and one-dimensional.


Originally Posted by R-Wells
"They went back to 4130 when it was found to be more cost effective in terms of amounts of wasted tubing from build errors. You can cold set that 4130 all day!"

And yet you insist that they dont use steel to cut costs, and raise profit margins?
I never said that. You may have inferred it. But you made a critically wrong assumption in this case. Both materials I mentioned are steel. They changed the grade to simplify fabrication and cut costs, that's all. That bike is still not a big money maker according to my sources at Trek.
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