power output chart
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Originally Posted by jrennie
Power dosen't win races, skill/brains wins races. Power just keeps you with the field or the break.
...im not sure im allowed to according to some here
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Originally Posted by eskimo85
i dont know where im at there but i would like to and maybe then i can reference this chart
#29
well, knowing where you are in comparison to others fitnesswise can give you the confidence you need to get the job done in races, or it can make you realize you need to work on your fitness to be able to pursue the tactics it takes to win races. Referencing the chart could theoretically do both.
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...and for a shot of reality, here is the chart that cyclingpeaks uses now:

Compare to the original:

Compare to the original:
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Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus
Like what's been said above though - it's e-wang measuring to bench race your wattage.
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Originally Posted by TheKillerPenguin
So out of curiosity, where would a 2.5min max wattage fit in on the chart?
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Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus
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#37
Originally Posted by TheKillerPenguin
well, knowing where you are in comparison to others fitnesswise can give you the confidence you need to get the job done in races, or it can make you realize you need to work on your fitness to be able to pursue the tactics it takes to win races.
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Originally Posted by TheKillerPenguin
press the printscreen button on your keyboard, go into MSPAINT (except for cypress, because he's a dirty apple using hippie), and then press ctrl + v
Tried print screen, shift printscreen, control printscreen....etc....Better off so I don't embarrass myself anyway...LoL
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hit print screen, then go into paint, go to edit, then paste, should work.
Here are my (pitiful) numbers
Here are my (pitiful) numbers
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Originally Posted by dmotoguy
hit print screen, then go into paint, go to edit, then paste, should work.
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Originally Posted by garysol1
When I do that it paste's what ever was on the clipboard before. I am still messing with it..
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If someone will tell me a photobucket-type website that will allow just plain files, I'll upload my excel file in which you can input data ->it automatically highlights where you are. A master of excel programming, if I do say so myself.
Plus then we can have more graphs and charts in all of our threads.
Plus then we can have more graphs and charts in all of our threads.
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#49
Originally Posted by eskimo85
thanks that will be useful!
There's another test for the profile numbers (i.e. the chart) which employs similar tactics. The idea is to obtain realistic results quickly.
Edit: just to clarify, FTP is defined as "the highest power that a rider can maintain in a quasi-steady state without fatiguing for approximately one hour". The 20 minutes minus 5% deal is a much easier/faster way to estimate that number. It's difficult for many people to find a place to do a full one hour, not to mention a lot longer warmup + recovery time. The shorter test makes it easier to test, an encouragement for testing more frequently.
Last edited by 'nother; 06-26-07 at 11:59 AM.
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Originally Posted by 'nother
There is a specific FTP test/workout in Coggan and Allen's book. FTP is not simply "5% off of your 20 minute power"; you do a warmup, 5 minutes all out, 10 minutes easy, then the 20 minute TT effort which is what you are going to take the 5% from. Then 10-15 minutes easy + a cool down. The last bits don't matter for the test, but are still important to do. The initial bits, the warmup, 5 minutes all out, etc. are important to the test; as they say, it 'helps to dispense with the initial "freshness" that always exists at the beginning of a ride.' i.e. if you just went straight into the 20 minute segment, you would probably get misleading (higher) results.




