For you lean, maybe tallish, US racers: what brands of britches fit you? I tried on a bunch at A discount dept store, and everything that fit in the waist was way too tight in the rump, guads, and calves. I then ordered some basic pleats cotton chinos from Land's End, and they have the same issues.

I have to wear pants or jeans at my new office, and my old stuff fits right, but the new cuts aren't made for bike racers. I'd like to buy off the shelf, but I may have to get 36s and alter the waist. My pant size is usually 32x34 if I can get them with enough rise. Otherwise, I have to go up to a 33x36.

I'll hit a Gap and EB this weekend, but I'm doubtful...

Marks work warehouse in the states?

buy european

Get a tailor.

fwiw, women's pants aren't made for bike racers off the rack either.

If I'm following correctly, your thighs are larger proportioned than a typical 32" waist. I have a similar issue but not exactly. Bills' Khaki M1 is cut fuller through the thigh and have a long rise. I have several pair and can't say enough good about them.

You would probably do well with the non pleated-version.

https://www.billskhakis.com/shop/pants_twill.html

I, on the other hand, need as many pleats as I can get.

machine washable. hang after drying or light iron works well.

Figures. I'm thinking that way a bit. I like $39 pants better than $100 pants though

Le linque?

Yeah, for ~$100, I can get full custom. Pleats all the way for me. No way any plain front will be as comfortable (I can wear Gap baggy fit jeans a size too big, but just barely). If you saw how tight these pleated Land's End pants are, it's just silly, and I even have some room in the waist.

I guess those Bills Khakis look pretty badass. The lightweight poplins might be the way to go here in Austin. Looks like the Assos of britches.

It's perplexing, because the Eddie Bauer shorts I've been buying for a decade are plenty full in the rump and thigh, even in a size 32. I have to wonder if they have a pant with the same cut.

The New Standard by A.P.C., $140
Cut from a stiff dark denim that ultimately molds to your body, creating just the right fit.
www.apc.fr



if you wanna nice jean...you have to pay the price. Seven for All Mankind are my best pair. The ones pictured above are nice as well. Find a nordstroms rack...or an outlet store that sells high end jeans...i can get paper denims for $40..ahhh jeans.

Pleats? Please, no.

If you need a semi-custom fit for a large-thigh-thin-waist racer, see what 20 or $30 and a good tailor can do.

Though if you are fashion-forward enough, you could help spearhead the transition back to pleats, they are probably due for a comeback in the next 5 or so years.

Mac

I have an oddly proportioned body, but being relatively lean, I can say that the Gap is not made for people who are in good/great shape.

I'd have to put on 20-30lbs in order to fill out a size small shirt from the Gap, and I'm wide of rib, for lack of a better phrase.

I haven't been able to wear plain front for 20 years. Jeans just barely. Plain front twills always feel like some disco pants on me.

When suggesting $140 jeans, remember that I race training tires, 32h wheels, don't own a TT bike, and I choose my phones based on what's free. I just don't like spending money that much.

Yeah, I have some old Gap jeans that fit me decently, but I'm screwed for shirts since I lost my last round of weight. I've been buying some knits that are more fitted, and it's working out. My old Gap basic mesh polos are pretty big on me now. (I worked at the Gap for a couple years, and their stuff was perfect for me back then... 1992). My last pair of jeans was from 1996 or so.

Man, I've been wearing "hiking shorts" daily for a loooooong time. (not really, that's just what EB had called them in the past)

Diesel, Seven for All Mankind, APC, and Nudies.

check out www.ssense.com

Have you been over to San Marcos and the VF factory outlet store? You should find the biggest selection there.

I find the "relaxed fit" stuff works pretty well, but I'm only 5'10" (32" waist). I can't wear regular fit pants because of the massive guads..

Sometimes, I'll just go up a size and wear a belt.

please don't tell me that you also like acid wash?

rock on dirk digler

I'm in the same boat as you but wear a 31 waist. The 30's fit inthe waist but are too tight on the guads.

Wow some of you pay a lot for clothing, I guess I am a cheap *******. If I gott pay more then $30 for any piece of clothing I get annoyed.

I am having trouble with dress shirts, even a 15 1/2 32-33 is too damn baggy and bunches up in the back, I can't stand that. My wife tells me to just put some weight back on.

ok. time for an intervention.

relaxed fit jeans are fredelicious.

Lucky Brand (sometimes, their 34"/long length is really long), BKE (found at The Buckle), Express (sometimes), Guess Jeans... all fit me pretty well.

Most of the cheaper are built for people with big waists and tiny legs and no butt. My waist is a 31, legs are 34 length, and my quads and butt have muscle, so if the cut isn't really good, the jeans just won't work.

It has been my experience that LLBean tends to have a cut with some room...and their "value" shop...

Man, you wear shorts and race t-shirts to work for 15 years, and end up missing the whole fashion thing completely.

Bills is starting to look more attractive. I'm still hung up on the way jeans feel through the crotch. Maybe I can try on a really nice pair and see about the fit, but to get the comfort w/out pleats doesn't seem possible to me if I don't buy big and cinch it with a belt.

I'm still not down with $100+ jeans. There's no cost to a given cut. It's just paying for the texture, pocket stitching and maybe fabric/proprietary weaves. Same with khakis.

I'm 33-34x36. No shop carries anything in stock for my length, so I hit jcrew.com when they put their stuff on sale. I will get a couple things not on sale a year, make sure the sizes/cuts agree with me, then take the full price things back to the store and wait for them to come back out on sale.

Levi's store/Sears is generally the only place that I have found that regularly stocks 34x36.