tallmantim

Ugghh

Tried to go for a 20' TT this morning. Got 5' in and could not sustain it - average power was already down to 389W and when I tried to push it just kept going lower. Gave up at 6'.

Rest day Friday and yesterday but no good. I think I will need to cut the calorie control now and work on getting stronger.

Looking at HR data, heart went up to about 160bpm and just sat there during the TT effort. I now feel tired and look tired. Ended up doing about 30km in recovery zone.

Big training day tomorrow - 70km on the road plus 1-1.25 hour indoor coaching session (hard efforts) plus yoga. Will see how I go then.

Nate552

What you building towards? How's your new home?

esammuli

4 hours of solo ZII with a few medium length climbs in ZIII. 3-4 more hours planned tomorrow. Starting to get rolling again. This time of year is fun because you can see gains on practically a daily basis.

bostongarden

80' ride without much zip for climbs today as yesterday's journey took a little bit out of me. But, I wanted to get out there and ride. Done.

wanders

Out today with the geezers for 3 hrs. After downloading my data, I found I hit a couple of wattage pr's for 20 seconds and 3 minutes during an extended climb. A quick calc on the ewang shows I'd make a decent Cat 5 - if I were female.

I hate that chart.

Flatballer

I'm barely even on the chart these days. Some durations I'm not on the chart at all.

I think I should change my weight to about 50 lbs, so I can be pro.

godshammgod

One benefit of not having a powermeter: That chart can't tell me how slow I am. On the other hand, I don't need a powermeter or that chart to know how slow I am.

I ended up doing 2.5 hours of solo putzing around today.

ridethecliche

I'm still in shock that I survived the hill that I used to do intervals on. I was going at a good clip and it seemed easier than i remember. Weird...

godshammgod

Maybe all your lifting helped boost your power a bit.

Or you had a 30mph tailwind...

ridethecliche

Quite possibly, but then everyone else would have been faster as well. Maybe I just had some afterburner gas action going

kensuf

glad you're an expert.

mike868y

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RedLeg

I am no expert either. I am trying to think outside the box - If my butt doesn't get shipped to Afghanistan again next year I will let you know if it worked!

kensuf

ok, non-smart-ass response..

depending on when your season starts, I'd probably not do any vo2 work right now. base is good (or as many say "base is"). if you've already got a pretty decent base then maybe start sst/threshold work, and only do vo2 work when you start getting stagnant and no longer progressing.

echappist

Question for those of you who lift during base, can you reschedule a session onto your off-day? I was sore for 4-5 days after my initial gym session & the muscles have only recently felt fresh.

ridethecliche

Like I said earlier, it makes little sense to sharpen a knife with no blade.

Depends on what your workouts following the lifting session will look like. If you're doing an LSD ride, then go for it. If you have harder rides/intervals planned, I might not.

If you're lifting upper body, then I'll say that soreness doesn't mean that you won't have full use of the muscles. If you're lifting legs, then I'd give it atleast 1 days rest till you hit it hard again.

When you start lifting, you're going to be sore for a little bit. After 2-3 sessions of lifting, you're not really going to be bothered much by it. I'm not sore after my workouts anymore. If I take a month off and do one, then I will be. It's base time so now's the time to experiment.

echappist

RTC, thanks for the info. My ride tomorrow is just a LSD, and i'd like to get in a lifting session before my next LSD as Wed & Thurs are high intensity days.

ridethecliche

What does your workout look like?

Really, it's just like running/riding. If you haven't done it before, you're sore for a bit. Then it gets better and eventually you're just a little spent.

rkwaki

Suck it up buttercup
Like RTC said give yourself a little time. I continue to lift all through the race season as well though lower intensity. I did legs with my trainer last Tuesday and did the Penguin until Saturday and that wasn't my first day of leg training - we just hit some of the supporting muscles rather than the core leg muscles.

echappist

Guys, thanks for the suggestions.

My current training regimen is a 35 minute whole body circuit consisting of 3x25 with 45-1 minute of rest between sets. Nothing serious now. Hopefully by the end of build it'll be 3x25 with the last set going to failure.

I actually don't mind lifting on my non-riding day as i get some physical activity done. On the other days, if i were to lift, my day gets very long in a hurry.

ridethecliche

You should be in and out of the gym in about an hour. And jeez 3x25. Wowza.

echappist

extremely low weights. like doing leg presses at 115 lbs

shovelhd

Basically the same thing I'm doing, a little more weight and 2x30 or 1x60. Strength work starts soon, but I want my right knee to feel a little better first.

Hida Yanra

sore from the "weekend wakeup" shock therapy.
but monday is my day off... all is good, but stairs aren't fun.
This morning I was up and down the stairs in my building repeatedly between 4a & 6a while carting laundry about... heck of a way to start the day.
I checked the garmin splits for the run yesterday - geesh, maybe I should quit being an average/decent cyclist and be an average/decent runner... much cheaper and I'm already there.

Ygduf

Still shocked at your run times. Cycling ftp is good, running threshold is like, 9' miles and crippling soreness for days. I think all those stabilizer muscles I use running have completely atrophied, died, and fallen off.