Racer Ex 

I was joking.

spinwax

Chris is probably one of the best Ironman/full distance triathletes in the world. He has done the 112mile bike split in 4:25!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Insane. His position has been tuned by arguably one of the best tri/tt fitters in the world, Mat Steinmetz who runs the company owned Retul studio in Boulder Co.


EDIT: Sorry RX... just saw your last post.

kleinboogie

Probably not right to reply to myself but I realized it is possible to overlay Garmin data. Just make a new video with Dashware overlay. Could also use AVISynth to combine two videos (side/front or back, or both sides), add Dashware and run through MaxTraq. Voila. Retul for about $1K (or a little more if using two HD cameras like the ContourHD 1080P, would be better to use video monitoring/recording with HD quality and view on the computer like the Bullet cams). Guess I got a new project.

esammuli

Hey Ex, did you fabricate those arm rest plates yourself?

Racer Ex 

Yep. Rests and bars.

esammuli

Do you have any close ups? I'm thinking about making some rests for my Tula. The stock plates don't have a setting that allows me to get my elbows close enough. I'm a little leery about drilling new holes in a carbon plate that thin.

KendallF

Good info throughout this thread...I don't have any more to add other than I used to ride with my elbows at less than 90 degrees, and my comfort improved significantly when I stretched out a bit. Going too far stretched into the "superman" style fits is worse, though, at least for me.

Hida Yanra

.... home now, getting a bite to eat and starting to integrate the ideas into action items.
I ran by the shop and they didn't have any zero-setback seatposts in the used bin, so I'll see what I can cobble together around the house. (having just sold off all my spare forks&seatposts off two weeks ago) :-(

Racer Ex 

My rest is one piece, made out of sheet aluminum. The bars were prototypes.

Making two rests in a similar fashion wouldn't be hard...nice part is you can mold them to fit your forearm(s) a lot better than the generic stuff.

Racer Ex 

I'd offer you a post but the spares I've got are 1200 miles away.

esammuli

Very cool. Thanks.

Nate552

+1 I got seat posts......

Hida Yanra

rounded up a seat post - but it is a setback and isn't perfect... slammed all the way forward the position is close(ish), so I'll get a cheapie tomorrow and go from there.
I'm thinking about where on my saddle I'm going to perch - don't have that part figured out yet. Right on the nose feels good, but I'm not sure if that would work for rides longer than 90'.

How worried are you guys about KOPS in a TT position?

esammuli

Not at all

Hida Yanra

thanks - that was what I was gathering by some 'good' positions I've seen photos of, just wanted to be sure.

rruff

IMO, arms relaxed is the way to go. If you aren't using your arms to "create power" but rather stabilize your body... because it isn't stabilized naturally. Of course you need to adjust your position to achieve that, which usually means putting your butt farther back.

rruff

How do you like having your elbows together? I've been doing that for about a year... initially uncomfortable, but I quickly adapted.

Racer Ex 

Been like that for two seasons. I ride the TT bike a lot so adaptation was pretty quick. I like it a lot, very stable, fastest for me, and I seem to shed crosswinds a bit better.

cat4ever

This isn't slowtwitch and even if it were it still isn't funny.

Hida Yanra

Okay - I'm starting to feel tired, so I'll quit for tonight.

-Seat is a long way further back (3cm)
-Seat is a bit lower (I think... have to check this in the morning)
-Bars are in the same position

the pictures tell the story - what say you?
I'm going to do 40' ride on it when I wake up.... should be telling.



I can't hold that position while putting out power for 40', but I'll see how close I can get tomorrow, and start the adaptation process,
Head: lower
Arms: look more vertical to me
Back: less flat - but a more even surface than in the initial setup... opinions on this? Lowering the seat kept the leg-torso problem more at bay, but I am higher at my lower back and posterior.

esammuli

Take a pic with your leg at full extension when you get a chance. Your saddle might be low, but it's hard to tell from that pic.

bidaci

Is there any benefit in moving the seat back and riding the nose over moving his butt back onto the saddle?

I was under the impression that riding the nose of the saddle was to get further forward within the UCI restrictions.

changes2008

To annoy you.

Quel

I don't see why you think your back is less flat. Looks noticeably more flat to me. That position looks 10 times better to me than what you started with. I'd start hitting the road and making whatever necessary power/comfort adjustments from there.

Hida Yanra

Will do.
I've ridden it a couple of times now, and I think the saddle does need to come up.
Decent side shots and a frontal profile will follow - hopefully still today.

For some people, I'm sure it is related to UCI stuff. For me it is because I'm not comfortable unless I ride the nose of the saddle... My experience is the same on my road bikes, I rode the nose constantly until I switched to SMP saddles, and occasionally I still do it with them. There a nerve that doesn't like me perching on it - and while my current TT saddle is the softest TT saddle I have found, it still doesn't go over well.