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Old 02-14-14, 03:44 AM
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Originally Posted by shovelhd
Curling is a bizarre sport.
Makes more sense when you realize that curling is as much an excuse to drink beer as it is a sport.
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Originally Posted by gsteinb
you getting buried today? planning on driving through tomorrow.
We got hammered. Roads are pretty bad, I have a very short commute so I can't speak to the conditions on the northway, but my guess is they aren't great. Good luck!
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Originally Posted by Wesley36
Makes more sense when you realize that curling is as much an excuse to drink beer as it is a sport.
I thought it was an excuse to mine rocks from that one island that has all the curling stones.
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Originally Posted by carpediemracing
I thought it was an excuse to mine rocks from that one island that has all the curling stones.
Ailsa Craig...last time The Open (golf) was at Turnberry, they talked about that rock and curling stones about as much as they talked about Tom Watson.
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So, rebuilding bike and most likely will jump on the 22 speed bandwagon with Force 22. Was looking to get a Stages PM, but the crank arms aren't available for Force or Red due to Stages staying away from the carbon crank arms. Does anyone know if the Rival crank arm can be installed on a Force 22 crank? I assume since it's GXP to GXP, all would be good, but I'd rather ask before dropping the $$.
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So, my oldest daughter(8yr) is a pretty good kid and the teacher loves her. Problem is that she is rewarded all of the time and with candy. We are just recently finding this out as we have found a bunch of wrappers in her backpack and she came home yesterday after eating a cookie and a bunch of candy full.

It is a bit frustrating as a healthy parent trying to pass down healthy standards to my kids. My kids love to snack on broccoli,olives,grapes etc. but I digress. Just fuming a bit as I really don't know how to approach the situation. I like that she gets rewarded just candy 24/7 really??
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lol i wish i got candy when i was in school
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Originally Posted by hack
So, rebuilding bike and most likely will jump on the 22 speed bandwagon with Force 22. Was looking to get a Stages PM, but the crank arms aren't available for Force or Red due to Stages staying away from the carbon crank arms. Does anyone know if the Rival crank arm can be installed on a Force 22 crank? I assume since it's GXP to GXP, all would be good, but I'd rather ask before dropping the $$.
On my older stuff, there would be no problem putting an aluminum left side crank arm on a Force chainring set. No experience with the 22 stuff.
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Originally Posted by thechemist
So, my oldest daughter(8yr) is a pretty good kid and the teacher loves her. Problem is that she is rewarded all of the time and with candy. We are just recently finding this out as we have found a bunch of wrappers in her backpack and she came home yesterday after eating a cookie and a bunch of candy full.

It is a bit frustrating as a healthy parent trying to pass down healthy standards to my kids. My kids love to snack on broccoli,olives,grapes etc. but I digress. Just fuming a bit as I really don't know how to approach the situation. I like that she gets rewarded just candy 24/7 really??
I'm with you. My 9-year-old said that she got a doughnut yesterday at school as some sort of treat. We just don't do that...partly because I'm a food wacko, but mostly because it's just crap for the kids to eat. I understand having treats on Valentines Day, but it really doesn't need to be a common thing.
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Mine still has candy left over from last year's valentine's party at school (and she just turned 3 on Sunday).
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you guys are some strict parents!

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Before Junior I would have thought that. Now it's sort of interesting to see how my attitudes have changed. For example we haven't given him any fruit juice, ever, and apparently a lot of kids have had juice by now (almost 2 years old). We let him eat what he wants for the most part but usually give him relatively good choices. The worst are mayo and fries (not together, at least not yet). He loves fries. He loves mayo on bread (we give him a ham sandwich and he usually picks off the ham). He likes cheese, plain or in a sandwich (which he usually picks apart to get the cheese). The Missus makes him muffins and other baked goods so no preservatives or weird stuff.

At the same time I've started to alternate local milk with (not-local) organic milk, mainly because the local stuff doesn't have added vitamin D.

So although we're not saints we're also not giving him really bad foods either.
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Originally Posted by ovoleg
Good news, the mechanic at the bike shop striked me as someone that knows what they're doing. I wasn't aware but the guy I was going to before was the owner. He used to race for the soviet union national cycling team and apparently held some national titles. He's def on the chunky side but I'm pretty sure he would still kick my a$$.

You never know who you'll meet at the shop! Support your LBS.
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Does he still have his team issue Colnago?
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Does he still have his team issue Colnago?
He's got a TON of vintage retro cool bikes at his shop. They're not my shop sponsor and I prefer my team shop but they're pretty far so I go to these guys. At first I was skeptical but after getting to know him I like the shop a lot.

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Originally Posted by hack
So, rebuilding bike and most likely will jump on the 22 speed bandwagon with Force 22. Was looking to get a Stages PM, but the crank arms aren't available for Force or Red due to Stages staying away from the carbon crank arms. Does anyone know if the Rival crank arm can be installed on a Force 22 crank? I assume since it's GXP to GXP, all would be good, but I'd rather ask before dropping the $$.
I'm fairly confident that a Rival Stages arm will fit a Force 22 crank. Though you'll have one aluminum and one carbon crank arms.
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I'm fairly confident that a Rival Stages arm will fit a Force 22 crank. Though you'll have one aluminum and one carbon crank arms.
Thanks. I don't think the "feel" of the arms will be too different, but it will be nice to be able to bounce the arm from bike to bike in a matter of seconds. It might not be the most glamourous thing either

Still mulling a 6800 option, too.
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Originally Posted by hack
So, rebuilding bike and most likely will jump on the 22 speed bandwagon with Force 22. Was looking to get a Stages PM, but the crank arms aren't available for Force or Red due to Stages staying away from the carbon crank arms. Does anyone know if the Rival crank arm can be installed on a Force 22 crank? I assume since it's GXP to GXP, all would be good, but I'd rather ask before dropping the $$.
I'm sure someone out there has tried it and posted on the internet, if not contact Stages.
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Yes, but it has scoring and from what I understand the winner is based on an objective result.

More than can be said for figure skating, ice dancing, half pipe and other judged things that are more dance competition than sport. I'm just not a fan to those.
I somewhat understand the frustration with judged events, but I find the alternative - that the only "real" sports are racing sports based on time or sports where points are accumulated by accomplishing specific physical tasks - much less appealing. There's a huge range of athleticism that would be left unexpressed without them, because there's no other way to score these sports. And although there have been scandals in judging, there are detailed scoring criteria that judges follow and the results do typically align well with what I, a non-expert viewer, am seeing. The judging process certainly has subjective elements, but there are objective ones, too - in figure skating, did the skater complete their required elements? Y/N. That's objective.

Not that we should shy away from subjectivity. Declaring subjectivity the enemy and requiring "objective" scoring for every sport would make as much sense as judging a writer by the WPM she can type rather than her ability to convey an idea or evoke an emotional response. That's not to mention that "objective" sports are subject to arbitrary rules (and often, subjective and hotly debated enforcement of them) that define the results every bit as much as a panel of judges does. Heck, how many stage races have been won based on utterly arbitrary time bonuses? Gerrans winning the TdU is just the most recent example - on "real time," Evans would have been the winner. I'm not a particular fan of figure skating or gymnastics, but they're every bit as legitimate as curling or XC skiing, and I don't want them to go away.
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I wish I could score in races based on things like "most improved position in the last lap" etc

As a non-expert in all those judged sports I can only tell if someone fell or something. I did watch some of the Olympics but not in forever. I do like the feel-good clips posted on FB etc.
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Originally Posted by Herbie53
More than can be said for figure skating, ice dancing, half pipe and other judged things that are more dance competition than sport. I'm just not a fan to those.
I feel the same way. Some of the subjectively scored things are interesting to watch for brief periods of time and I'm sure they're technically difficult and physically demanding, but I don't really see them as sport (don't really feel that golf is a sport either - more of a pastime, but that's an argument for another day), and the fact that they're the featured parts of the winter olympics make me not really a fan of the winter games. Sure they're bits of artistic expression and art is valuable, but it's not the same thing as sport. It's performance art.
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Look. They're sports. Period, done. The history of judging in sports runs through all of modern history, at least. That's just not a fight there's any point in having. It's like people trying to argue, for example, that a music genre that isn't their cup of tea "isn't music." If you don't like them, fine. But defining what's "sport" and what isn't seems mostly to be an exercise in excluding sports that, to be frank here, have a more feminine image. That bothers the heck out of me. Again, I can't emphasize strongly enough that the "objective" racing sports are still bounded by arbitrary, subjective rules and are refereed by officials with a subjective point of view. There's no escaping this element of sports!

Look no further than the tie for gold in the women's Downhill ski race at the Olympics the other day. It was a "tie" because FIS rules say that all times are rounded to the nearest hundredth of a second, and there's no allowance for tie-breakers past that. But the timing equipment is easily precise enough to see finer differences, and the two gold medalists did not finish with the same time. One was some number of thousandths faster than the other. That's the objective reality: two skiers did not complete the course in the same amount of time. But because of an arbitrary, subjective rule about how those times are handled, we have a tie.

This objectivity thing is a bogus distinction. Meaningless. If you don't like a sport, don't watch it. Don't say it's not a sport, that's an empty argument.
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I don't think a sport is even necessarily physical, although many (most?) sports are.

I think formula1 racing and billiards are sports, for example. Coordination and balance are interesting thing to compete over too. Sports? Maybe, I like to think so.
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