Wylde06

Do you have a link for them? Ive considered electric heated insoles but have never looked too hard for them.

carpediemracing 

Didn't want to shill so didn't include link. The ones I bought, the ones my teammate bought (I think more than one, but one guy actually likes them enough to email the team about specials on them), come from here.

The rest of the site is a bit wacky, to be honest. Apparently, though, the site does 100% warranty stuff, so one of the things is that if the soles go bad for whatever reason you send them back and get a new pair.

Also they're almost always on sale from the $160. Typically $70-100, the lowest price only happens 2x a year or something.

The soles add a few mm of height, I haven't measured it exactly.

beatlebee 

Isn't enough for me. I need two layers of booties: PI on the outside, thick wool socks, plus chemical warmers and my toes are just a little cold at 30 degrees. Just like training, what works for one doesn't necessarily work for another.

YMCA

There is a very cheap secret to never having cold feet again, but I'm not telling.
Rather see the fools pedal squares.

bmcphx

but... blanket statement.

Depends on shoes, how cold someone is prone to get, and many other variables. This is my first winter wearing Sidi, have always ridden S Works, and Sidi don't require nearly the sock or overshoe that S Works did. In fact, even at 25 degrees, I am wearing nice wool socks and that's it. With my S Works shoes I would have to have shoe covers and the thickest wool socks ever made or even Assos Fugu Speer sock.

I've also never used Smartwool, is this a specific product, or a line of products? I really like the Specialized Merino base layer products, but find that their socks fail hard. Maybe I'd try a different wool sock since the ones I like are $40 and that's somewhat hard to swallow.

Wesley36

DeFeet Wooleators FTW, in pretty much all temperatures

PS in colder temps, with my very vented SWorks shoes, the socks are a.base layer, I use neoprene booties on top

Wesley36

12 hours and 732 TSS this week, TSB is very close to -50. I was planning for a.bit less than that, but with the above freezing temperatures, I have been trying to make the most of it. 3 hours on Friday and Saturday, and an hour this morning before the temperature falls again.

Fatigue up to my eyeballs, in the good according to plan way.

grolby

Another 3.5 hours of Z2 today. Bumped up from a 9 hour week last week to almost exactly 13 hours for this week, and boy am I feeling it. But I think once I'm acclimated it should give me a good foundation to start doing some harder workouts. More rain today, too.

Boston tends to be a lot warmer on average. Even a few miles out, it's usually cooler. With the 1,000 feet of additional elevation in the Hilltowns, it's that much more pronounced. I was out there a few years back on a rainy day in August, and it was 56 degrees or something. Ugh.

grolby

Regarding cold weather clothing/accessories: there's really no one-size-fits-all answer. I tend to struggle with cold hands and feet, and what some consider ample insulation is often inadequate for me. During my long ride yesterday in high-40 degree temperatures, I went with wool socks and without booties, and found that was just enough. A couple degrees colder and I would have been very unhappy. If it's raining, things become even more challenging. I have a pair of Endura road overshoes that are pretty amazing, but after four seasons of use, they really aren't waterproof anymore. I'm planning to experiment with chemical toe warmers when the temperature drops back into the 30s. I've avoided them in the past, but I'm really tired of coming home with numb toes.

My hand situation is a bit better, I finally bought a pair of lobster claw gloves and they are quite impressive and actually work down to below 30. Much lower than that, I don't know. And, of course, glove liners are your friends. It's amazing how a thin polypro liner in the same glove can be the difference between being comfy and being frozen.

Enthalpic

plastic bags?

YMCA

crap, I been outed

grolby

Yeah, I know the plastic bag trick. It's good, but there's nothing magical about it. When it gets cold enough, toes are still frozen.

Matt2.8NJ

I have crummy circulation in my toes... I go with two full sets of thermal shoecovers. Works ok for 3 hours down to about 20 degrees.

TheKillerPenguin

double flat 4 miles from home...walked back (no idea wtf the tss is for that type of thing)...then since I didn't have enough daylight to do a full 5, did 4:15 and upped the wattage a bit.

TheKillerPenguin

Dunno honestly, you can usually find them in the crunchy hiker stores tucked away near the toe shoes and various other silly things. They're awesome though, warm like wool and wick really well.

shovelhd

I have Smartwool, and every wool model from DeFeet. Each has their purpose.

I ride S-Works shoes, and have a narrow foot. I have been thinking of trying the Sidi Wires. Opinions?

bmcphx

I have pretty normal feet and the wires fit me about the same as s works did. I've heard a number of people grumble about the narrow width of sidi shoes and say that's why they won't buy them. I always wonder though if that's just an excuse to keep from saying they can't afford.

Wesley36

I used to have Sidis, and they did not fit my.feet nearly as well as my SWorks, FWIW. I even had Side Megas, still too narrow.

Ygduf

sidi are super narrow. Sidi Mega are normal width shoes.

YMCA

you may not have done it right then

get a plastic grocery bag, put it over the your shoe, tie the handles around your ankle, this keeps the air out, put booties over bag, do not cut out plastic at cleats, just clip in and go, your feet will sweat even at 25 degrees

Wylde06

90 minutes on the rollers. 8 hours for the week, biggest since the end of September.

tetonrider

not a shill if it's a product you believe in and think others might enjoy, IMO. not like you own the company (but even then, if it's something that is on-topic it makes sense to me.)

tetonrider

shovel...are you just trying to advertise the fact that you can afford them? do you even want them?

tetonrider

it's just a vapor barrier...and it does work.

used basically an equivalent on denali in temps up to 60 below zero.

tetonrider

some of the newer base layers, i find, actually keep me cooler on hot days. i have some pretty light/summer-specific team jerseys (e.g. castelli climber's jersey), but these base layers are even more "hollow" and seem to increase airflow a bit. i've experimented.

i know some folks think a base layer in that circumstance is just another thing to absorb and hold moisture and that their jersey does just fine transporting moisture off the boyd...but for me even with a jersey designed to do just that it still benefits from the base layer.

ymmv and all that.