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Old 06-15-14, 06:30 PM
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Nice job rideaz!!
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mattm and rideaz, outstanding work!
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Originally Posted by rideaz
It worked. :-)
nice job!! sounds like a helluva race.
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Harlem Crit, cat 3. 15th or so of 70.


This race was fast and ridiculously crashy. There had been some talk beforehand about how changes in the traffic patterns on the course would narrow the corners, but I think it ended up having the opposite effect. On every corner, they removed the plastic traffic dividers and rounded off the corners way up into the pedestrian area. The course was a big roundy square, 100% non-technical (except for the potholes and debris).

There were many crashes. I got shoved into the barriers and clipped a pedal into the barrier foot, causing my rear wheel to bounce sideways and causing a crash behind me. I also clipped a pedal twice in the turns, so now I know what that's like at 27 mph. There was a full on yard sale crash at turn 1 on two consecutive laps.

With 4 to go, a move went that had a guy from the biggest team there (the same team that dominated the 3s at Bethel this year). I figured it had a chance so I bridged, but in retrospect I shouldn't have, because there was no way to block a field this big and aggro. I burned a lot of gas and of course the break got caught very quickly.

I obviously didn't have a prayer in a field sprint, and also I felt like I was living on borrowed time, so on the last lap I went hard on the back stretch and led the field through turns 3 and 4, mostly just to get in front of any mayhem. It was fun to lead the field with 100m to go, but I never really had a chance, especially after bridge just a few laps earlier.

I was signed up for the 2/3 field as well, but I skipped it. I was just relieved to finish the first race with all of my blood on the inside.

Also I think I was the oldest racer there by about 10 years. [correction, not even close]

It was an exciting and fun experience but I don't really feel like I need to do that race again.

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Originally Posted by globecanvas

Also I think I was the oldest racer there by about 10 years. It was an exciting and fun experience but I don't really feel like I need to do that race again.
You're 67?
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Harlem 3/4 winner. He's 57.


Yehudah Perlowitz photo
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Wow seriously? Stating the obvious, that guy has a monster sprint.
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1980 and 1984 Olympian
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that kit tho.
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He passed me so fast that my soul died a little bit.

This photo sums up the race pretty much (credit Yehuda Perlowitz):

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That is not shovelhd.
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hey I know that move.
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how is he doing a 3/4 race?
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I guess he's happy as a 3. Looking at his results he seems to either win or roll in at the back. It seems like he would have hundreds of upgrade points, but apparently not enough in any year for a mandatory upgrade.

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that's a lot of wins as a 3.
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Originally Posted by globecanvas
I guess he's happy as a 3. Looking at his results he seems to either win or roll in at the back. It seems like he would have hundreds of upgrade points, but apparently not enough in any year for a mandatory upgrade.
my app calculated roughly 196 points, not accounting for mixed fields. jeez.

but I think people have to complain for mandatory upgrades to kick in.. hint hint.
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Tour de Burg-I raced bad and i felt bad, but i made 70 bucks so at least i could buy dinner.
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Originally Posted by mattm
my app calculated roughly 196 points, not accounting for mixed fields. jeez.

but I think people have to complain for mandatory upgrades to kick in.. hint hint.

Maybe if I finished 4th I would complain, but not for 18th place.

I think there was some previous discussion of this gentleman with two first names and how he games the system to avoid upgrading.
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This is very common in the Northeast.
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I thought someone from Wafels and Dinges team went off the front towards the end? Or are you talking about a different team? I saw avg speed at almost 27mph for the race, which seems really fast for a 4 corner tight crit with no big straights. 27mph seems too fast to take corners, as Globe said he clipped his pedal. Maybe they could have made the course even wider or limited the field somewhat?
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Originally Posted by globecanvas
Maybe if I finished 4th I would complain, but not for 18th place.

I think there was some previous discussion of this gentleman with two first names and how he games the system to avoid upgrading.
meh. he's 57. Why should he race as a two. If guys can't beat him they're going to get their heads handed to them anyway. He can't sprint in a 1,2,3 field.
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Originally Posted by jsutkeepspining
Tour de Burg-I raced bad and i felt bad, but i made 70 bucks so at least i could buy dinner.
not bad.
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Originally Posted by gsteinb
Maybe they could have made the course even wider or limited the field somewhat?
I don't think rider safety is a priority in this particular course design. The only way it could be faster is if the streets were paved with actual street, or if it were a velodrome.

Having said that, it couldn't really be less safe, so maybe it would be an improvement to sharpen the corners. The new surface in the turns is this sort of glued-on texture is rough and loose. Imagine poorly manufactured 20 grit sandpaper. Here are some responsible parties trying to figure out how they could possibly make it less awful.

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meh. he's 57. Why should he race as a two. If guys can't beat him they're going to get their heads handed to them anyway. He can't sprint in a 1,2,3 field.
Because he's taking away upgrade points from riders that actually want to be Cat2's? It's racing at the appropriate level, not gaming the system to sandbag.
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Because he's taking away upgrade points from riders that actually want to be Cat2's? It's racing at the appropriate level, not gaming the system to sandbag.
that, and it's just lame to compete against those weaker than you on purpose just to feel good.
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