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mike868y 03-31-16 08:13 AM


Originally Posted by TheKillerPenguin (Post 18651956)
Crunchy sounds + sideplay?

no sideplay that i can detect but crunchy sounds. lasted a year of heavy use, so i guess that's normal for pf30.

Doge 03-31-16 08:17 AM


Originally Posted by shovelhd (Post 18651680)
There is no rule that I am aware of, only that your bar end must be plugged. However as I have explained in the past, if a referee feels that it gives the rider an unfair advantage or is a safety issue, they can ask that it be removed.

I have a similar mirror on both of my bikes now, an Italian one that has a glass lens. It goes under the bar tape though so it's not removable. It's been a game changer for me with my vision issues. It makes road riding, especially in a pace line, much safer.

I 'm glad that helps you. I saw the model you had and selected this slightly heavier one as it does unplug and adjust. Junior can cover both sides with one mirror - leaving the other bar available for a bell :-)

Off topic rules, touchy feeling stuff:
I think but the "unfair advantage" is one that I have never seen enforced properly in cycling (or soccer). There may be an advantage, but it is not unfair if others have the same opportunity to legally use it. If they didn't know about it, or chose not to use it, or couldn't afford it, it does not become unfair, from a cycling rules perspective. I see affordability as an issue, just not for referees to deal with.

This is a @20 mirror.

Doge 03-31-16 08:19 AM


Originally Posted by mike868y (Post 18651994)
no sideplay that i can detect but crunchy sounds. lasted a year of heavy use, so i guess that's normal for pf30.

I just have to change the bearing each season. If ceramic, more often. Daniel saw the pro mechanics hosing the bike, so he got into it.
It does contribute to crunch.

grwoolf 03-31-16 08:58 AM


Originally Posted by spectastic (Post 18651367)
I saw one of those at the driveway thursday, in matte black. I would personally never dare to race on one of those, due to murphy's law.

I normally don't worry much about crunching a frame, but I gave this one some thought before taking it out to the Driveway just 6 days after building it up. There were 2 wrecks in the first 5 minutes of the 3/4 race and I kept thinking "just get through week one and Murphy will go away after that". It was fine and I'm just not going to stress about it. I can't see having a bike like this and not racing it.

As a long-time Specialized fan, I must say I'm pretty impressed with Trek. I did the "project 1" program where you can customize the bike. With the paint I picked (matte white, minimal logos), it only cost me $100 more than a standard "non-custom" frame. It took me less than 3 weeks to take delivery. You also have the opportunity to pick from different seatpost setback and handlebar width and reach (since there is no separate stem). I'm not sure whether that's part of buying a standard frame or not, but it's something you certainly want to get right. If your reach is off, you are looking at $600 to buy a new "stem" (ie complete handlebar). The bike is extremely well thought out and assembly was surprisingly easy with all the integrated stuff and internal cabling.

Doge 03-31-16 09:52 AM

Physics / Math experiance guessing required. Junior is doing this course: Stage 3 - Redlands Bicycle Classic - Redlands, CA
We are not tied to any brand. I'm not 100% UCI bike dimensions apply, but I think they do.

My thinking is focus on uphill as that is where most time will be spent. Downhill, much will be coasting as his junior gears can't pedal well 45mph +.

Bike is Shiv, 11spd.
Wheels...these are ready to ride weights, tires cassettes. I am avoiding brand name for current and ex sponsors although on our own here.

Rear:
Road wheel - 50mm profile, 25mm wide, 25mm silks 24h, super coaster ceramic bearings - 1020g
Vintage XWind tri-spoke 22 wide - 1270g
Modern disc flat - Ceramic bearing - 1350g
Modern disc not flat - 1660g

Front
Road wheel match to Rear - 20h - 800g
Modern Trispoke - 1140g
Vintage trispoke - 970g

I'm thinking double vintage tri-spoke or road wheels. Leaning double tri.

Thoughts?

spdntrxi 03-31-16 10:09 AM


Originally Posted by Doge (Post 18652267)
Physics / Math experiance guessing required. Junior is doing this course: Stage 3 - Redlands Bicycle Classic - Redlands, CA
We are not tied to any brand. I'm not 100% UCI bike dimensions apply, but I think they do.

My thinking is focus on uphill as that is where most time will be spent. Downhill, much will be coasting as his junior gears can't pedal well 45mph +.

Bike is Shiv, 11spd.
Wheels...these are ready to ride weights, tires cassettes. I am avoiding brand name for current and ex sponsors although on our own here.

Rear:
Road wheel - 50mm profile, 25mm wide, 25mm silks 24h, super coaster ceramic bearings - 1020g
Vintage XWind tri-spoke 22 wide - 1270g
Modern disc flat - Ceramic bearing - 1350g
Modern disc not flat - 1660g

Front
Road wheel match to Rear - 20h - 800g
Modern Trispoke - 1140g
Vintage trispoke - 970g

I'm thinking double vintage tri-spoke or road wheels. Leaning double tri.

Thoughts?

If windy I'd go Rear : Modern disc Flat Front : Road wheel match
If not windy I'd go Rear : Modern disc flat Front : Vintage Trispoke

Doge 03-31-16 10:33 AM

Think I agree. Except that Vintage (Nibble Crosswind) handles wind very well. I just learned the road is bad, so wondering about wider profile tires.

Why have TTs on bad roads?

island rider 03-31-16 01:32 PM


Originally Posted by topflightpro (Post 18651888)
Old, pre-dimple Zipp.

HED said I could ride it, but that they would probably warranty it if I want. I really like this company.

spdntrxi 03-31-16 04:34 PM


Originally Posted by Doge (Post 18652407)
Think I agree. Except that Vintage (Nibble Crosswind) handles wind very well. I just learned the road is bad, so wondering about wider profile tires.

Why have TTs on bad roads?

because they are empty...but I agree.

grwoolf 03-31-16 08:25 PM


Originally Posted by grwoolf (Post 18652105)
I normally don't worry much about crunching a frame, but I gave this one some thought before taking it out to the Driveway just 6 days after building it up. There were 2 wrecks in the first 5 minutes of the 3/4 race and I kept thinking "just get through week one and Murphy will go away after that". It was fine and I'm just not going to stress about it. I can't see having a bike like this and not racing it.

I spoke too soon. Murphy raised his head tonight. Went down hard at 30+mph on the last lap tonight. Race was strung out and I was near the front (should have been safe), guy went down across the road right in front of me. I have no idea what happened and I didn't have a chance. My head broke my fall, helmet looks like it was put in a vise. Surprisingly little road rash but my head looks like mike tyson's face from the helmet bruises. Some bike damage, but frame is fine. Could have been much worse for me and the bike.

jsk 03-31-16 08:57 PM

Ouch, [MENTION=167755]grwoolf[/MENTION], that's a bummer. Hope you heal up soon and it's nothing too serious. You get checked for a concussion?

shovelhd 03-31-16 09:03 PM

Heal up.

grwoolf 03-31-16 09:22 PM


Originally Posted by jsk (Post 18653904)
Ouch, @grwoolf, that's a bummer. Hope you heal up soon and it's nothing too serious. You get checked for a concussion?

Thanks man, I think I'll just be sore for a bit. EMT's checked me out.

spectastic 03-31-16 09:54 PM

did it happen around the last incline right before you get into the turns? I heard something happened over there. I got taken down there once when some guy tried to bomb the corner through the track kerb, lost his wheel, and took 4 of us down with him.

depending on circumstances, I might be there next week.

grwoolf 04-01-16 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by spectastic (Post 18654001)
did it happen around the last incline right before you get into the turns? I heard something happened over there. I got taken down there once when some guy tried to bomb the corner through the track kerb, lost his wheel, and took 4 of us down with him.

depending on circumstances, I might be there next week.

Yep, that was the spot. I heard there were multiple wrecks at that same spot last night.

I ended up in the Emergency room until 3am after my headache was getting more intense/dizzy and I was bleeding in my sinus cavity (sign of possible brain bleeding). After CT scan, etc., the dr. said it was just concussion/hematomas and some damage in the sinus cavity from the impact. I wasted a night and unknown $'s at the ER, but I figured the head stuff isn't something you want to mess with.

Funniest part was when I walked into the ER at midnight (holding my helmet), the guys asks "are you another one from the bike race"? I was their 3rd for the night.

spectastic 04-01-16 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by grwoolf (Post 18655382)
Yep, that was the spot. I heard there were multiple wrecks at that same spot last night.

I ended up in the Emergency room until 3am after my headache was getting more intense/dizzy and I was bleeding in my sinus cavity (sign of possible brain bleeding). After CT scan, etc., the dr. said it was just concussion/hematomas and some damage in the sinus cavity from the impact. I wasted a night and unknown $'s at the ER, but I figured the head stuff isn't something you want to mess with.

Funniest part was when I walked into the ER at midnight (holding my helmet), the guys asks "are you another one from the bike race"? I was their 3rd for the night.

jeezus.... sorry to hear that... was this the 3/4? have to make note to be careful around that spot next time, because from what I remember, it's that incline right before the turns where people make attacks and try to pull away from the group, because it's pretty much all single file after that.

grwoolf 04-01-16 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by spectastic (Post 18655418)
jeezus.... sorry to hear that... was this the 3/4? have to make note to be careful around that spot next time, because from what I remember, it's that incline right before the turns where people make attacks and try to pull away from the group, because it's pretty much all single file after that.

No, 4/5, but I heard there was a wreck in the 3/4 there as well.

That is absolutely the place you need to have position, but our race was already getting strung out at that point and there was a lot of room for not many people. I don't think it was people fighting for position or getting squeezed, I assume it was a clipped wheel the way it happened.

grolby 04-01-16 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by grwoolf (Post 18655382)
Yep, that was the spot. I heard there were multiple wrecks at that same spot last night.

I ended up in the Emergency room until 3am after my headache was getting more intense/dizzy and I was bleeding in my sinus cavity (sign of possible brain bleeding). After CT scan, etc., the dr. said it was just concussion/hematomas and some damage in the sinus cavity from the impact. I wasted a night and unknown $'s at the ER, but I figured the head stuff isn't something you want to mess with.

Funniest part was when I walked into the ER at midnight (holding my helmet), the guys asks "are you another one from the bike race"? I was their 3rd for the night.

That's not a waste of money at all. You never know. Heal up.

spectastic 04-01-16 12:56 PM


Originally Posted by grwoolf (Post 18655601)
No, 4/5, but I heard there was a wreck in the 3/4 there as well.

That is absolutely the place you need to have position, but our race was already getting strung out at that point and there was a lot of room for not many people. I don't think it was people fighting for position or getting squeezed, I assume it was a clipped wheel the way it happened.

yea, 4/5 is much more unpredictable. crashes pretty much every other race when I was a 5. I thought the driveway was a little more tame (familiar course, familiar people), but I guess not

Doge 04-01-16 08:04 PM

I cropped a Strava segment and even though I move the start to the right, it still has the segment starting at 0 mph. The map shows correctly, but does not line up with the speed, HR.
So I just deleted it off Strava and Garmin.
Is there any simple cropping tool besides Strava?

TMonk 04-01-16 09:11 PM

I'm glad that you're ok [MENTION=167755]grwoolf[/MENTION]

Doge 04-01-16 11:18 PM

2 Attachment(s)
This is the crop situation that is off.
First and Second have the same timeline, no matter where I start this thing.
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=513018

And after the start crop the speed is the same.
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=513019

jdms mvp 04-02-16 06:47 AM


Originally Posted by Harlan (Post 18649188)
Compatible with any saddle? If so, yo quiero.

fizik saddles with ICS

ancker 04-06-16 09:44 AM

My LBS has the eTap upgrade kit on 'pre-book' for me via QBP, but has no ETA.
Anyone know how that works? Are they guaranteed to get it? Is there a priority system or something? (This is a very very small shop)

SideNote: Anyone know how often SRAM is replenishing stock?

revchuck 04-06-16 10:04 AM

The last time I looked, QBP had an ETA of April 30 for eTap. My guess is that orders will be filled in the order they were received. I don't know of a "priority" system (which doesn't mean it doesn't exist). Another guess is that they won't have enough stock to fill all outstanding orders, but I'd like to be pleasantly surprised.


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