island rider

I keep hearing "milk and medals ?!?!? give me a f***ing break, milk and medals?!?!?!" I get it. But as for me, I can get an envelope of cash out of an ATM. Hardware is more valuable to me.... or will be once I start winning some. I would not be surprised if the Cat 5, 4 and maybe 3s keep showing up, but you lose the higher levels.

grolby

Oh sure, it's not that I have anything against Dieter. He's never come across as a dick to me or anything, actually he was kind enough to comp my pre-reg fee in 2009 (I did pay on race day, of course). It's more that his goals as a race promoter aren't aligned with what most bike racers think they should be. As I understand it, he promotes races to make money. And that's fine, but what he needs to do to achieve that doesn't really end up being what most racers would consider a good value for their entry fee.

globecanvas

We're in the wrong thread for this, but I like Dieter and I think he provides a good product. People who think he doesn't, have maybe never experienced a truly poorly-run race. I can suggest a certain omnium in N Jersey for anyone who wants to experience extreme disorganization.

And I've always loved the Battenkill course and the whole spectacle of it. His entry fees are too high though, hard to argue with that.

mike868y

vogp >>>>> battenkill. much different event though, but if you have a cross bike it should be on your hit list.

gsteinb

no we're not. you want to make the rules go get yourself a blue star.

gsteinb

I'll be doing that this year I think.

globecanvas

OK. I'm moving this talk of northeast race promoters over to the road rash thread.

gsteinb

wrong thread.

globecanvas

Have you done it before? That is the only race I've ever done that I won't do again. Nice people, they just have no idea how to run a race. It takes more than asking your wife and her sister to show up 10 minutes before the start to help out.

gsteinb

my teammates did it. It's part of our state series this year. It's also father's day weekend, and there's not much else going on.

globecanvas

Have fun. Expect frustration, unless something significant has changed with organizing club.

gsteinb

you're actually about the only person I heard say anything bad about it. but nonetheless from an occupational standpoint I try not to expect too much of anything aside from eventual impending death.

island rider

I like having races in the windham/hunter area and have no problem with Dieter. I just think he does some strange stuff. I.e. the Greene Summer Classic at Windham Mountain... you can't race it as a male Cat 4 if you are less than 40 years old. W - P/1/2/3/4, M - 40+ (1-4), 50+ (1-4), Open Cat 3 and Open Cat 5.

globecanvas

That's gotta be a mistake. Probably it will end up being a 3/4 field.

island rider

Yeah, you're probably right.

ridethecliche

ok
ok

bmcphx

5500ft in 42mi today. 3800ft in 31mi tomorrow. Will need a slow easy Thursday. This is going to be more elevation gain in 3 days than I usually do in 2 weeks! Love you California.

gsteinb

are you mapping the sarcasm or missing it

furiousferret

What part of the Golden State are you at?

ridethecliche

bmcphx

Santa Barbara. I'll be going back through glendora to visit the donut man on the way home though!

furiousferret

Nice.

revchuck 

Occasionally I get bad sinus headaches, and pseudoephedrine works best to relieve the pressure. WADA has it as a banned stimulant above a specific level:

Assuming I take it according to the directions on the package (the 12 hour version with 120 mg), is it possible to know whether I'm street legal?

big john

Couple good climbs out of Glendora: hwy 39 to hwy 2 or Glendora Mountain Road to Mt Baldy.

bmcphx

Yeah I wish I had time for that. The road rules but I have to go back to the real world.