Originally Posted by Jarery

Yes it works in a pinch, but the OP was praising it as the best material ever made. Thats where i pipe up and say not even close

There are many materials a LOT better, just none marketed to even a fraction of the hype. It is a decent material, but I spend 2 hours a day commuting, 5 days a week, all year round. With 2 mountains between me and my work i get a good workout. And every year it seems we set new rain records. A couple weeks is all it takes to find out how well a material works without any doubt. I have not tried the original goretex lately, but I have tried the newer incarnations. Ive also tried other materials, and found some far superior.

Good designs like full length pit zips I agree are essential. But a material that breathes 2x better than goretex xcr, and also with full length pit zips, is still a lot better