I wore my XCR coat again today... and loved it even more I also wore my XCR shoes. I was totally "gore'd up". Sure it wasnt raining out... but it is cold and windy Fact is.. goretex works, if there are better products out there, I probably just havent tried them. Mostly because if I am spending $500 on a coat, I want to KNOW it works... not speculate. Maybe I will buy a "cheaper" other brand garment next time... if it works well, then I might move up to larger products.