I edit heavily because I want to make sure what I say sounds correct ( i was an editor once)

Go, gortboy, go.

you'll see the light about Goretex someday. I'm only trying to help those that are not so closed minded. Seems the W.L. Gore company thinks I know what I am talking about.

AND, High powered flashing LED lights STILL give greater distance cognification of bicyclists than HID setups.I see it every night out on my bike commute. (physics based, absolute size of lighthead diminishing over distance, versus the human eye's ability to pick up a flashing light at longer distances...)

I'm happy for you though, viperZ. Although, it sounds like you've never worn a softshell jacket for high output aerobic activities. Do you own a softshell? which ones?

Gore-Tex XCR is NOT the end all, be all fabric for outdoor sports. You KNOW what works best for you but your experiences do not reflect vangaurd thinking on outdoor shell technologies and their performance.

Can you think of any other reason except performance that softshell jackets have been continually lauded in the outdoor industry for the last decade or so? Since its introduction, the Cloudveil Serindepity jacket, made of Schoeller Dryskin, has continually won awards as one of the best outdoor jackets ever made. it's NOT waterproof.


Softshells. Better than GoreTex XCR for outdoor wear. Even Gore Bikewear offers more NON-waterproof jackets than their waterproof versions.

Look at cycling clothing (I currently work at a bike shop.) Non waterproof, more breathable options are what riders are turning to for better performance while riding.

but, hey, hey, all you guys in Goretex XCR sweatboxes, you KNOW what makes a good winter cycling jacket. More power to the greenhorn gorts wearers that carry 8 pound Himalyan expedition tents for beach walks.

I'd listen to your advice about outdoor gear over my advice anyday, viperZ. NOT.