Last effort : I did not see it as a reaction or adaptation, or ANYTHING else; I was only commenting on the Bike itself, an OBJECT we can like or dislike without it turning into a moral discussion I should think! Reading things into people's words is very frustrating and has turned this thread into a discussion it was never intended to be so can we drop this now and keep writing about vintage bikes. I respect anyone riding any bike, but some bikes are nice-looking and some are not in my humble opinion (and yours, I'm sure), please let's stick to that, nobody in these pages judges any riders as far as I know, and certainly not intentionally. Don't forget there can be a (medical or other) reason for almost anything you do to a bike; if you have to consider that every time, you may as well stop posting ANYTHING negative about any given bike. And these pages would be a lot poorer for it too.
I mean, really, you post a thread about a STEM and all of a sudden people are discussing physical disabilities & who should or should not ride which bike??? I can only repeat the title of this thread (which was supposed to be funny -- funny does NOT equal making fun of people).
Peace & love to all bike riders (vintage or not)
Last edited by joe v; 12-12-06 at 08:27 AM.