I think this entire thread has been hijacked. Give Joe a break people! He shows a low end-ish but pretty vintage Eddy Merkxx whose set up is an abomination. From an aesthetic standpoint, there is no dispute: the classic look of that bike has been trashed badly. Now HPVA Guy is opening up arguments on several fronts, including this last comment challenging the "low handlebars with a lot of stem extension" crowd to get all defensive as he seems to be arguing that his ultra long wheelbase monstrosity handles better. I'm sorry Joe. Some days are like this. What started as a promising thread seems to be going down in flames as every classic road cycling hater in cyberland lays in ambush.

edit: its a sad day where affirming the unpopular comments of a legit thread can practically get you banished from the forum.