yeah, i just ordered a pair and i'll be getting them hopefully tomorrow. looks really nice. sometimes i just wanna not look like im out for a race....like when this weekend i'll be doing a 60 mile ride and then having lunch and possibly dinner in a neighborhood that's not so full of bikers...i'd like to look casual but still sport technical gear and i think these knickers are the way to go. what i really wanted to buy as well but didn't end up forking up the cash for was the merino wool jersey. i did however check out the stuff they have at Rapha and i must say their products look REALLY awesome. im thinking about getting the climbers cap from them. sometimes i wanna ditch the helmet too even tho it's not such a good idea.