yea well in reality it was my bike shop man but i can still be accountable because i didn't buy a lockring wrench until a week before it stripped. btw you remind me i have to repack my campy hubs. thanks. the old formula hub i had on my Open Pros is holding up fine no slips or at all since i installed it myself. i did 180 skids, skids, and skips on it with bout 25lbs in my bag and its fine so i feel like im getting better with wrenching skills now. i was really thinkin about pulling the trigger on some Phil Woods to match the smoothness of the aerospoke hubs(they will probably be better tho) but not too sure yet. i found them double fixed on http://www.spicercycles.com/index.cg...cat_desc=Track
for $158 which is the cheapest i've found so far. but i dunno if its really worth it. what do you think?