Originally Posted by fore
the only time my mountain bike sees pavement is on the way to the trail. (or when my the rest of my bikes aren't ridable.) as far as shoes, i can't stand basketball shoes. too gaudy these day
nice dodge
Originally Posted by fore
they rode fixed gears because they had nothing else.
maybe for some of the people in here, a cheap, thrown together FG is all they have. I just built up a new De Bernardi, and it cost one third what a road bike of similar quality would have. I have no geared bikes and haven't ridden one seriously since 1999 (I fell into the one geared thingee around 96 and it is too much fun/less maintenence/less likely to get stolen/more cost effective. Dare I use the word "fun?" Might I direct you to Sheldon Brown's pages on fixed gear for a few other reasons?
Originally Posted by fore
i poke fun at people who buy track bikes
I poke fun at people who use computers. We're even.
Originally Posted by fore
but you can bet your ass that every tuesday night i was racing my legs off in kenosha
respectable. I raced the Olympic Velodrome in Co Sprngs when I lived out there (when I had the time) and I loved it. Funny thing: I never owned a track bike out there, just an MTB SS. I managed to keep my legs on...I probably was not going fast enough.
Originally Posted by fore
see, i got my start riding fixed because i wanted to race on the track. i think it's absolutely the most pure form of bicycle racing there is
Some people in here would argue it is the most pure for of cycling PERIOD. I would concur.
Originally Posted by fore
there are very few things these days that'd make me happier than going down to the track when the season starts and seeing the number of people racing double. and the number of spectators quadruple.
that is a good thing. an even better thing - if that happens with all people. more people need to get off their collective asses and ride a bike. or do something physical. America is FAT.
Originally Posted by fore
everyone and their brother these days are riding track bikes, or a fixed-gear conversion, but it's always the same people showing up to race..
the same can be said about $7k road bikes or MTB bikes
Originally Posted by fore
i'm just saying it'd be nice if they'd at least try it...
agreed, the culture at the track is a rather fun thing to be a part of
Originally Posted by fore
well, guess what. the function of a track bike is to be ridden on a velodrome.
ok...so back to the Mountain bike comparison.
this narrowing of function on any bike can be applied to any accessory on a bike too then.
the logic here is absent.
if this is your own opinion, that's cool. but I have never seen a book of "How and Where to Ride Your Track Bike." Or one called "Why You Can't Put a Cycling Computer on Your Track Bike."
I think the point here is a clear.
Originally Posted by fore
i laugh at people who build up a fixed gear, buy a messenger bag, etc.
Now THAT'S cool. Do you mirror this action with everything else people do in relation to what you think is laughable? If someone wants to do th above for street cred, fine. If they go away in time b/c PBR tastes like butt to them, or their knees start to hurt, or they don't get the attention they need...FINE. Who cares in the overall picture? Don't tell us. Go tell Bianchi, KHS, Specialized and the other companies that make "street" track bikes that what they are doing is not acceptable. Maybe they'll stop. Just for you.
Originally Posted by fore
Start drinking PBR.
I served in the Army. PBR and Mickeys were always the cheapest suds around. Note: cheapest. Beer can have the same theory as "why ride a fixed a gear" = cost effective in a variety of ways. Let me know what I should be drinking now since I have a few more dollars to spend. I'd hate to see my money getting saved.
Originally Posted by fore
and conform to a couple dozen other stereotypes i can name while at the same time snubbing others for doing what they want to do. be it wear lycra or put a computer on their bike.
Once again, you fall into your own trap. Snubbing is snubbing.
Overall fore:
I do understand your position, I just don't agree with it as it smacks of the same elitism that can be displayed in here (and on the roads too) about fixed gear/track on the streets. I joke around a lot and most people in here know when I am kidding around and when I am serious; if I confused you anywhere before, let me know and I clarify my statements. In the long run, people will do what they want. Asking someone if they have a preferred manner of mounting a computer on a track bike is a valid question. I am suprised you didn't find out where this bike was going to be ridden (Hmm...does Hawaii have a velodrome?).
Lastly, your signature baffles me (okay - this is where I begin kidding around):
"I ride bikes"
How are we to understand this? Can you tell us which bikes you ride where. We want to make sure we are doing it right.
I am always happy to wake up to a good 'forum converasation'...it makes cheap coffee (uh-oh, is that too hip for me to have cheap coffee?

) go down easier.
Cheers!

(I think they are toasting with Schlitz)