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Old 04-08-04 | 09:13 PM
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That sounds french you cheese eating koolaid monkey!
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Old 04-08-04 | 09:35 PM
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......hmmm... does that hold true for mountain bikes ridden on pavement or basketball shoes worn off-court, for instance? ....
the only time my mountain bike sees pavement is on the way to the trail. (or when my the rest of my bikes aren't ridable.) as far as shoes, i can't stand basketball shoes. too gaudy these days.


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yes it isn't. look back to the history of the bicycle and fixed gears before you make another statement like this. While they didn't have computers, they were used on the street.
they rode fixed gears because they had nothing else.


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And then you have insulted anyone who has ridden a track bike on the street and subverted your own cause for individuality. Tsk tsk...
i poke fun at people who buy track bikes and never ride them on the track. if they want to ride them on the street, it's their own business. i sure as hell rode mine on the street, but you can bet your ass that every tuesday night i was racing my legs off in kenosha.

see, i got my start riding fixed because i wanted to race on the track. i think it's absolutely the most pure form of bicycle racing there is. there are very few things these days that'd make me happier than going down to the track when the season starts and seeing the number of people racing double. and the number of spectators quadruple. everyone and their brother these days are riding track bikes, or a fixed-gear conversion, but it's always the same people showing up to race.

i'm not saying that everyone who buys a track bike has to race it. i'm just saying it'd be nice if they'd at least try it. a mantra for the fixed-gear community could easily be "form follows function." evident in the cries of "less maintenance!" and "there's nothing to break!" well, guess what. the function of a track bike is to be ridden on a velodrome.

i laugh at people who build up a fixed gear, buy a messenger bag, start drinking PBR, and conform to a couple dozen other stereotypes i can name while at the same time snubbing others for doing what they want to do. be it wear lycra or put a computer on their bike.
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Old 04-08-04 | 09:43 PM
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Yeah, I figure whatever floats your boat. I ride a fixed gear and i use a messenger bag. But, I was a messenger up untill a few weeks ago. So now im a commuter that looks like a messenger. I think my kool-aid tastes funny.
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Old 04-08-04 | 10:05 PM
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First of, yes I drink PBR but I think that has more to do with being from Montana.....

I don't have a bike computer on any of my fixies, because I find it distracting. If the computer is there, I tend to pay more attention to my current MPH or Cadence, than the road and cars around me. Henceforth since I ride brakeless most of the time, the last thing I need are more distractions. I have a bunch of computers sitting around in my bike room right now, just collecting dust.

But really why should we care what other people do when they are on their bikes, the important thing is that they ARE on bikes and not in a H2 or some similar beast.

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Old 04-09-04 | 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by fore
the only time my mountain bike sees pavement is on the way to the trail. (or when my the rest of my bikes aren't ridable.) as far as shoes, i can't stand basketball shoes. too gaudy these day
nice dodge

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they rode fixed gears because they had nothing else.
maybe for some of the people in here, a cheap, thrown together FG is all they have. I just built up a new De Bernardi, and it cost one third what a road bike of similar quality would have. I have no geared bikes and haven't ridden one seriously since 1999 (I fell into the one geared thingee around 96 and it is too much fun/less maintenence/less likely to get stolen/more cost effective. Dare I use the word "fun?" Might I direct you to Sheldon Brown's pages on fixed gear for a few other reasons?

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i poke fun at people who buy track bikes
I poke fun at people who use computers. We're even.

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but you can bet your ass that every tuesday night i was racing my legs off in kenosha
respectable. I raced the Olympic Velodrome in Co Sprngs when I lived out there (when I had the time) and I loved it. Funny thing: I never owned a track bike out there, just an MTB SS. I managed to keep my legs on...I probably was not going fast enough.

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see, i got my start riding fixed because i wanted to race on the track. i think it's absolutely the most pure form of bicycle racing there is
Some people in here would argue it is the most pure for of cycling PERIOD. I would concur.

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there are very few things these days that'd make me happier than going down to the track when the season starts and seeing the number of people racing double. and the number of spectators quadruple.
that is a good thing. an even better thing - if that happens with all people. more people need to get off their collective asses and ride a bike. or do something physical. America is FAT.

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everyone and their brother these days are riding track bikes, or a fixed-gear conversion, but it's always the same people showing up to race..
the same can be said about $7k road bikes or MTB bikes

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i'm just saying it'd be nice if they'd at least try it...
agreed, the culture at the track is a rather fun thing to be a part of

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well, guess what. the function of a track bike is to be ridden on a velodrome.
ok...so back to the Mountain bike comparison.
this narrowing of function on any bike can be applied to any accessory on a bike too then.
the logic here is absent.
if this is your own opinion, that's cool. but I have never seen a book of "How and Where to Ride Your Track Bike." Or one called "Why You Can't Put a Cycling Computer on Your Track Bike."
I think the point here is a clear.

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i laugh at people who build up a fixed gear, buy a messenger bag, etc.
Now THAT'S cool. Do you mirror this action with everything else people do in relation to what you think is laughable? If someone wants to do th above for street cred, fine. If they go away in time b/c PBR tastes like butt to them, or their knees start to hurt, or they don't get the attention they need...FINE. Who cares in the overall picture? Don't tell us. Go tell Bianchi, KHS, Specialized and the other companies that make "street" track bikes that what they are doing is not acceptable. Maybe they'll stop. Just for you.

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Start drinking PBR.
I served in the Army. PBR and Mickeys were always the cheapest suds around. Note: cheapest. Beer can have the same theory as "why ride a fixed a gear" = cost effective in a variety of ways. Let me know what I should be drinking now since I have a few more dollars to spend. I'd hate to see my money getting saved.

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and conform to a couple dozen other stereotypes i can name while at the same time snubbing others for doing what they want to do. be it wear lycra or put a computer on their bike.
Once again, you fall into your own trap. Snubbing is snubbing.

Overall fore:
I do understand your position, I just don't agree with it as it smacks of the same elitism that can be displayed in here (and on the roads too) about fixed gear/track on the streets. I joke around a lot and most people in here know when I am kidding around and when I am serious; if I confused you anywhere before, let me know and I clarify my statements. In the long run, people will do what they want. Asking someone if they have a preferred manner of mounting a computer on a track bike is a valid question. I am suprised you didn't find out where this bike was going to be ridden (Hmm...does Hawaii have a velodrome?).
Lastly, your signature baffles me (okay - this is where I begin kidding around):
"I ride bikes"
How are we to understand this? Can you tell us which bikes you ride where. We want to make sure we are doing it right.

I am always happy to wake up to a good 'forum converasation'...it makes cheap coffee (uh-oh, is that too hip for me to have cheap coffee? ) go down easier.
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As much as I never tire of the fixie culture elitism v. poseur battle that has once again reared its pretty head, what I really want to know is whether I can continue to drink Tang, even though I'm not an astronaut.
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Old 04-09-04 | 07:40 AM
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As much as I never tire of the fixie culture elitism v. poseur battle that has once again reared its pretty head, what I really want to know is whether I can continue to drink Tang, even though I'm not an astronaut.
I must be a TOTAL Poseur...I drink grape Tang.
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Old 04-09-04 | 08:19 AM
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I never get discouraged when people call me a poser. When I started skateboarding at 12 I was called a poser. All those people weren't around to call me a poser when I was 27 riding a 12 foot halfpipe. People may call me a poser as they see fit butthe fact is that I will be cycling until I'm physically unable to do so anymore. If all goes as planned. I'll have a slew of bikes both geared and fixed and SS and choppers and cobbled together 3 speeds and whatever else I can dream/build up. Each day I'll choose what I want to ride. I've never ridden a velodrome, the closest I've been to one was seeing it from the highway driving through Indy. I've never been to a road race or a cyclocross race either much less raced in one. So should I sell my road bike too?
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So should I sell my road bike too?
ROAD BIKE??? Poseur...
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Lastly, your signature baffles me (okay - this is where I begin kidding around):
"I ride bikes"

"i ride bikes" is a thing my friend's collegiate team (UW-Whitewater) uses on shirts and pint glasses and whatnot. i've adopted it as my signature. i never quite saw the point in listing every bike i own. since the topic has been brought up:

2004 Gary Fisher Tassajara - my fun-in-the-dirt toy
2003 Salsa Campeon - my training/road race rig.
1970s Chimo Cobra - fixed conversion, currently in pieces in my attic, was used for Bike Polo and commuting
1999 Bianchi Veloce - current rainy day commuter. fixed. geared at 53x16
1980s Davidson Track - frame waiting to be built. fedex has hold of this one since they damaged the headtube in shipping. once that gets sorted out either it, or the frame i get with the money from the claim, will be my new race bike.


as far as the rest of the conversation goes, i'm through. i dont think anything is going to come out of it except for me looking like an ass, which really is nothing new.
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Actuall it's a cyclocross bike set up with road slicks...I get a posing twofer. But that's OK Mommy says I'll find my niche someday.
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as far as the rest of the conversation goes, i'm through. i dont think anything is going to come out of it except for me looking like an ass, which really is nothing new.
Not my point at all. Just having a conversation.
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two days ago I saw two kids looking at my pista while it was locked up. One was incorrectly explaining that my bike had a coaster brake! I explained that it was fixed gear and as I was leaving I heard him dismiss me for my "messenger-style." It honestly didn't bother me because I know I've ridden fixed through 2 Chicago winters. Heck now that bicycling magazine has pegged the pista the new hip thing I've come to expect some backlash, but the antidotefor me is rolling down Cortland Ave. and feeling the heat from A Finkel Steel or having a stroke while spinning out on the hills near the warren dunes of Michigan. Jeff
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Not my point at all. Just having a conversation.
i know, it's just how i see myself coming across.
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That sounds french you cheese eating koolaid monkey!
Cheese is fine as long as its on my Quarter Pounder. And supersize those freedom fries, squid.
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The only time I drank PBR was when it was $7 for a pitcher and a pizza. You can't argue with the price even if it does taste like crap.
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