the true intent of the thread was to strike up this conversation about social standing and why we as a forum community gravitate towards bikes

you know the geek someone who is totally turned on by bikes a mechanic a frame builder a bike shop employee and yes somewhere in there is the pissy teenager from middle America who thinks he/she knows all

cool/ hip biker I ride for fashion I ride because it my get me something in return

the cyclist is a commuter and a racer a bit of a jock he rides all the time but a little less when the weather isn't nice

the messenger is the professional because they tend to know things about a city and how to move and work it to their advantage far beyond the grasp of most other people I didn't know the city until I had to work in it 9-5 m-f

ya know this isn't some esoteric separation of people it is more to see how dedicated you are we are the same but different i still wear spandex most days like the rest of you

thanks to everyone that has posted thanks to everyone who actually discussed things it is nice to actually see discussion of points without it coming to stupidity

keep the rubber on the road and your head on your neck