Originally Posted by
SteveE
In NorCal, the same ride would start at 9am and be finished by 12 noon.

No Steve, the same ride that YOU would start at 9 am would be finished by noon. But we did stop for about 30 minutes at Goldstein's Bagel's, so if it weren't for that, we'd be finished by noon
I think AltoVelo would have finished the ride by 11 am.