Just go with 36 spokes and use good quality spokes. I paid 175$ for my machine built Deep V...I know I got ripped off but I was in a pinch and need a rear wheel. I didn't have 250$ for the set...it is a formula hub and so far it has been a great wheel. The Deep V is not a wheel to save weight, it is a bulky hunk of metal. Enjoy it for the rugged masculinity or if you just want light weight get some tubulars.