JT I didn't think anything about your post being abrupt. I'll take any good advice. This is going to be a pretty nice ride when its done and I want it to look right. I learned a lot on the Continental build and being in the metal trades I have a pretty good idea what I'm dealing with but every situation is different and what I know about tool and die doesn't necessarily transfer over to bike building. I'm learning a lot and I think I have found something to keep me busy when I retire in a few years. I think my next build after this will be a classic balloon style bike or a Schwinn middleweight. Lots of opportunity for bling there