Thanks CJ, that was helpful! Mea culpa on the sportbike. The FZRs were a great line until discontinued back in the mid 90s. And no reason to hate, all sportbikes are very good to outstanding today and I'm sure there's one out there with your name on it. And for everyone else, sportbike riding will really improve your downhill ability on bikes. You can get more quality downhill training on a sportbike in an hour of mountainous road riding than you probably would in a year on just a bicycle.