Originally Posted by mconlonx

OK, so I can see why people would go for a Kilo over, say, an IRO or Surly complete. Save $200-300 or so. But if you're going budget, why is the Kilo any better than The Hour? Is it just the fork or are there other component/geometry issues? I had an Hour, it was great. I liked it better than a Mark V i picked up later. I have a group buy Rob Roy on order (snob appeal, curved seat stays, cheaper than Kilo frameset), but if I hadn't got in on that, I'd get another Windsor in a heartbeat. Why are people paying $50 more for the Kilo over The Hour? Tell me it's not just the fork...?